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Re: Questions for a sidecar project...

Postby MGill » Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:07 pm

Also, as Michael has pointed out, there has been a lot of
work as of late to streamline the sidecar rules of three organizations
(VRRA, uscra, and AHRMA) into one compatible document.
Change here is and should always be possible regardless of the other
clubs, but do we want to start moving away again, when we've just got
everything (finally!) sorted into a "North American" standard?
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Re: Questions for a sidecar project...

Postby commando » Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:10 pm

"11b. CHASSIS:
to be built of tubular or box section steel only. No stressed skin or monocoque
construction with the exception of genuine or copies, in which case the owner shall provide proof of
eligibility to the Technical Coordinator"

So this rig would run in P3, No big deal here. Right out of the rule book.
Get the facts together Eddy and submit a request to the tech coordinator.
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Re: Questions for a sidecar project...

Postby eddy321 » Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:55 pm

commando wrote:"11b. CHASSIS:
to be built of tubular or box section steel only. No stressed skin or monocoque
construction with the exception of genuine or copies, in which case the owner shall provide proof of
eligibility to the Technical Coordinator"

So this rig would run in P3, No big deal here. Right out of the rule book.
Get the facts together Eddy and submit a request to the tech coordinator.


Sigh! (of relief).
There's hope!

Thank you commando!
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Re: Questions for a sidecar project...

Postby Percy W » Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:10 pm

Go for it Eddy.
Streamlining the rules around the various sanctioning bodies is great.
With that in mind ..... AHRMA has modern bikes racing with the vintage......aaaaand pop!!! goes that can of worms.
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Re: Questions for a sidecar project...

Postby MGill » Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:26 pm

:D :D :D
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Re: Questions for a sidecar project...

Postby Michael Vinten » Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:57 pm

The misunderstanding appears to be based on the assumption that the replica was proposed for P2. P2 does not allow monocoque. However as has been noted, P3 allows replica monocoques. When the P3 sidecar rules were first proposed in 2002, the wording for replica monocoques was included. Although hub centre steering is not allowed, an accurate replica monocoque is. Approval requires proof that the replica is accurate which is what Eddy must submit.
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Re: Questions for a sidecar project...

Postby Percy W » Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:47 pm

Eddy,
It would be great to have you join us in the P3 group (Shelley and I will be P3 for next year).
If Brian gets his out, that would make 5 of us!! Pierre, Rick,you,Brian and us. Any more for P3?
That would be a great sight.

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Re: Questions for a sidecar project...

Postby Kyler » Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:41 pm

Miles H wrote:Eddy,
It would be great to have you join us in the P3 group (Shelley and I will be P3 for next year).
If Brian gets his out, that would make 5 of us!! Pierre, Rick,you,Brian and us. Any more for P3?
That would be a great sight.

Miles.


I would love to come up and add to one of the P3 races. I can't make a full series but would love to come back for one race.
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Re: Questions for a sidecar project...

Postby limy_1 » Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:39 am

First to address eddy's rig. Built it and you will get to race.
Second and most important is the unification of the rules in North America.
AHRMA sidecar racers are fighting to get the rules incorporated in the rule book.
We have worked closely with the VRRA & USCRA to homogenize the rules. They are up for public comment on the AHRMA website http://www.ahrma.org/?p=8168.
Look at the rules and comment. This is for the health of sidecar racing in general.
I am saying this as a sidecar racer in both AHRMA & VRRA. I am also a member of the SRA-west and also race with the SRA-east. We need your help in getting these rules established.

OK, I am off my soapbox now.
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